James and I have had a back and forth discussion regarding whether certain positions are back spreads. The discussion began here and there's an interesting aspect that's worth consideration:
How can a kite spread - in which you own a limited number of long options (on top) turn into a position with back spread properties?
First, some definitions:
a) A kite spread is generally purchased as insurance when an iron condor or credit spread threatens to move into the money. It's either a bullish position using calls, or a bearish position using puts. It's constructed by buying one option (the kite string) and selling (usually) 3 or 4 farther OTM vertical spreads (the kite sail). A more detailed description is available.
b) 'On top' means closer to the money. It's a call option with a lower strike than the options being protected. Or it's a put option with a higher strike than the options it is protecting.
Example: Please note: These are randomly selected fictional trades, generated today, with RUT @ 675. I don't have prices for these 'old' trades. The discussion involves the appearance of the portfolio, how it came to be constructed and says nothing about profitability.
Assume you sold 20 call spreads: RUT Apr 650/660 when RUT was trading below 600.
As RUT moved above 620, you became concerned about the position and decided to make an early adjustment (a Stage I adjustment). The trade you chose was to buy 2 RUT Apr 640; 670/680 kites [This is the C4 variety]
Adjustment I:
Buy 2 Apr 640 calls
Sell 8 Apr 670 calls
Buy 8 Apr 680 calls
You now own 2 Apr 640 calls and are short a total of 28 call spreads
The market continues to move higher, and when RUT passes 635, you are very uncomfortable with your position. It's time (you decide) to get out of some of those 650 calls. The simplest trade is to buy back a few of the Apr 650/660 [typo corrected] call spreads, but you decide to buy kite spreads instead.
You buy 5 Apr 650; 670/680 C3 kites.
Adjustment II:
Buy 5 Apr 650 calls (to close)
Sell 15 Apr 670 calls
Buy 15 Apr 680 calls
Comment: Increasing position size is usually a poor choice. The reason it's acceptable with a kite spread is that the adjustment trade (as a stand-alone position) adds no additional risk to the upside, other than the debit incurred when placing the trade. It does provide plenty of upside profit potential when RUT is not near 680 at expiration.
When RUT moves past 640, one reasonable trade is to sell the 640/650 C spread. This feels counterintuitive, especially when the upside is where risk lies and making the upside worse doesn't feel right. But if you sell this spread between $6 and $6.50, the maximum loss is only $350 to $400 per spread and it does make the down side better.
The true rationale for selling the call spread is to use the proceeds to buy more kites, reducing my short position on the 650 line.
Adjustment III
Sell Apr 640/650 spread 2 times
Buy 3 more Apr 650; 670/680 kite spreads
The position now looks like this: [with errors corrected]
- 10 Apr 650 calls
+20 Apr 660 calls
-32 Apr 670 calls
+32 Apr 680 calls
James calls this a back spread and I'd prefer to describe this position as one that contains a back spread within. The characteristic that gives this backspread-like properties is the fact that the extra long options are no longer 'on top.' The long option is the April 660 call.
To completely eliminate backspread characteristics, there are alternatives:
a) Buy 5 Apr 650; 670/680 C3 kite spreads. My preferred choice
c) Buy 5 Apr 650/660 C spreads. Perhaps sell one extra Apr 660 call to offset the cost cost, but only if the risk graph and your comfort zone allow that trade. I see no good reason to make this trade
c) There is no necessity to make these trades, but if looking at the 'backspread' portion of the position is uncomfortable (too much negative theta), you can take steps to alter the position
That's how kite spreads can turn into positions that resemble back spreads. And the process continues. With RUT currently trading near 675, it's likely that anyone holding this position would have repurchased many of the 670 calls as part of a kite that sold more 690/700 spreads.
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Hello Mark and thanks for your excellent blog! I have been considering your thoughts on trading 2nd and 3rd month Iron Condors and did a successful test last month, closing out the position 1 month early. I have been trading front month RUT iron condors for an average credit of 1.00, however I tend to leg into my trades. For example, I will first sell the call spread as the market is rising for around 0.50 (based on some technical analysis) and then wait for an opportunity to sell the put spread for again around 0.50, or vice versa. On some months I do not open up both sides of the iron condor because I don't like the risk of one particular side and can't get enough of a credit that would give me sufficient "breathing room" in the trade.
I had a question about your method of buying insurance. You tend to look for higher credits in your condors and then buy extra insurance. Would this not be similar to just opening up a wider iron condor for a smaller credit? It would seem to make things less complicated and have less commissions as well. I tend to think of these extra puts/call as complicating the overall portfolio, especially in relation to your recent posts on when you would then exit these positions (i.e. would you exit your long puts at the same time you adjust your put spread early?) I find the idea of opening up longer dated iron condors intriguing but the concept of purchasing extra insurance seems to really complicate the portfolio for me.
Tom
Tom,
NOTE: Overall 'risk' is a combination of how much you can lose and the probability of losing it. Thus, 'reduced risk' can occasionally be a confusing term. In today's context, I'm referring to 'dollars that can be lost' rather than the 'chances of losing those dollars.'
1) Any trading ideas I offer are meant to be something for readers to consider. I would never tell you that you must (or even 'should') adopt them.
What I am trying to do with this blog is to explain how options work and how the average investor can use them. Obviously some readers are far more experienced than others and already have ideas of their own. That's good. If those readers think about what I have to say, they may accept those ideas, or discard them. That's an educational process because it gets those readers to consider alternatives and make a choice.
For the rookie, such as yourself, I'm offering ideas that you may want to consider. But, if you are making your first few trades, we can agree that you should take it slowly and not do anything that feels complicated.
2) If it makes you uncomfortable, or if you don't fully understand, please don't use such ideas. Not until you understand them well enough to decide if they seem right for you and your trading style, philosophy, and bankroll.
3) There is nothing wrong with legging into trades, if you believe you have the market timing skills to do that profitably. Just remember when you sell inexpensive spreads, it takes a decent-sized move for the spread to widen by ten cents. That makes it tough to get your price, even after the market moves your way.
4) Regarding selling wider spreads: NO. That INCREASES risk (larger possible loss) with little extra to gain. That is not a good idea, and is NOT anything similar to owning insurance. The whole idea behind any type of insurance is to reduce the amount than may be lost.
Wider iron condors have a larger credit, not a smaller credit. Thus I ask: Did you mean: open a wider iron condor that is FARTHER out of the money?
If that is what you mean, that reduces 'risk' from the perspective of: 'it reduces the probability of losing money on the trade.'
When I refer to 'reducing risk' I don't mean it that way. I use that phrase to mean: 'less money can be lost' on the trade.
5) Yes. If I am adjusting a losing put spread, I would sell out all, or part of my extra puts. I would buy new insurance puts that are appropriate for any new put spread that I sold.
But, if I buy in a put spread early because it became very cheap, I'd still be tempted to hang onto my insurance. It truly depends on how much I can get when selling those extras. If it's very few dollars, I do not sell. Black swan events do happen. I may not want to bet on them, but if I already own a cheap option, there is no point in giving it away.
6) Commissions are not to be ignored. But in today's world you can find a broker who charges less than $1.00 per option contract, with no additional 'per ticket' cost. If you find commissions are hindering your ability to trade (and I get it, because I used to feel that way before the deep discounters arrived on the scene), you have the option to change brokers. It's very difficult to avoid a trade just because the commissions are excessive. If you feel that way occasionally, you must think about a new broker. You don't have to change, but it is worth considering.
I hope this was helpful. Trading in an uncomplicated fashion is NECESSARY in order for you to remain within your comfort zone.